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Cute Puppers vs. The Garbage Anime Edition

> Demo Day
Play: itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-26
Next: itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-27

> AGDG jam
Previously: itch.io/jam/agdg-princesses-witches-jam

> Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/agdg
AGDG Steam Games: homph.com/steam
Website: tools.aggydaggy.com
Weekly Recap: recap.agdg.io
Fanart and stuff: drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE
AGDG Logo: pastebin.com/iafqz627

Previous Thread: >>253794546
Previous Demo Days: pastebin.com/M8xVhUQu
Previous Jams: pastebin.com/ZNPSfbJ9

> Engines
pastebin.com/VvFKuXf7

> Models/art/textures/sprites
opengameart.org
blender-models.com

> Free audio
freesound.org/browse
freemusicarchive.org
incompetech.com/music

> How to Webm
obsproject.com
gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter

>> No.253910175
Quoted By: >>253910238

>>253910102
>cute puppers
>posts a tragically deformed bull terrier

>> No.253910201

There were 33 frogposts in the previous thread. This was well above the acceptable limit of zero. Let's try harder to keep the number down.

>> No.253910238
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Quoted By: >>253910430

>>253910175
fuck of

>> No.253910287

do you actually sit there scrolling through 800 posts counting how many have pepes wtf lmao

>> No.253910430
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>>253910238
ugly nigger dog

>> No.253910526
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253910526

most meshes are replacing, all placeholders
corners replace in 1x1, 2x2, or 3x3 randomly, the stupid looking spikes is just so I can see what size it is at a glance
the other bits replace in strips of 1x1 to 1x9
1x1 hill and pond corners are kind of blocky unfortunately, not much to do about that except detect L shapes to replace which is probably more work than it's worth

>> No.253910535

Any engine devs here?
Which is easier to learn dx12 or jogl?
I know java much better than c++ or C#

>> No.253910680
Quoted By: >>253910752

>>253910526
that looks good, keep it up!

>> No.253910714

>>253909957
How long have you been working on this game? I keep thinking you've long died but no you're always back eventually with more progress. Commendable effort, really.

>> No.253910752

>>253910680
thanks!

>> No.253910828
Quoted By: >>254006397

>>253910535
>Which is easier to learn dx12 or jogl?
Why would you unironically learn dx12?
Just use c++ and learn opengl. You can get performance very close to vulkan if you actually know what you are doing.
>I know java much better
>java
>better than anything
Don't even joke like that. C# is shit too btw.

>> No.253911997

You want music? I got music
If anyone here is actually close to completing a project and wants to commission an OST I'm here with some quality shit (BMus)
>https://soundcloud.com/camryn_nel

>> No.253912015
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Is this a good skybox?

>> No.253912074
Quoted By: >>253912189

>>253911997
very interesting...what program do you use to make your music?

>> No.253912189
Quoted By: >>253912325

>>253912074
I use Sibelius to do all my scores. I'm not that experienced with any programming related music technologies, though my university has a whole heap of resources and very expensive software that I pretty much have unrestricted access to.

>> No.253912218
Quoted By: >>253932429

>>253912015
No. Keep the moon still.

>> No.253912325

>>253912189
oh sorry, i'm not interested in using music from that program, but i wish you the best of luck!

>> No.253912343
Quoted By: >>254006397

>>253910535
I was about to give you a long response outlining both but then I read
>I know java much better than C++

and realized you're retarded, so I won't.

>> No.253912409

>>253911997
I don't like. Feel like the music has no direction whatsoever.
It's like you took the worst parts of classical music and combined them.
And i'm someone who has classical/classical-ish as one of the favorite genres.
Sorry.

>> No.253912415
Quoted By: >>253913265

>>253912325
not even that composer poster, but still, kys

>> No.253913109
Quoted By: >>253913265

>>253912325
based

>> No.253913152

>>253912325
So you switched your shitpost from engines to music programs. Big brain indeed.

>> No.253913226

>>253913152
>>253912325
also unity is best engine still kys

>> No.253913230
Quoted By: >>253913925

>>253911997
Just finished listening.
I kept waiting for music to start, but it's like orchestra is tuning the instruments for 30 minutes.

>> No.253913265

>>253912415
>>253913109
>>253913152
lmao look at all these triggered libtarded nodevs, thanks for the (You)s

>> No.253913925

>>253913230
lmao the last work in particular is actually super amateurish but I must admit I have not ever laughed at a criticism until I read that. I mean it's not even 30 minutes

but structurally it is a total mess so do I appreciate that you're not a fan

>> No.253914124

Is there an addon for blender that allows objects scattering/placement on other objects with a brush? I know theres random scattering and particle systems that you can weight paint, but wondering if theres something simpler and not roundabout.

>> No.253914327
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Quoted By: >>253915896

Working more on card hand thing, did a basic model and some basic logic for handling max hand size and going over it.

>> No.253915459

Hey guys. Do you know any tutorials or free assets which show how to implement "big" procedural worlds in Unity? I already have a test project which can generate a voxel world broken down into 16x16x16 chunks, generate the mesh data and colliders... But I'm kinda stuck at the point where I want to dynamically generate new chunks and destroy or disable old chunks depending on player/camera position. I know there are some paid assets and tried decompiling them but didn't learn too much because the source is not properly documented.

>> No.253915485

When will Godot get 3D trails?

>> No.253915787

Daily reminder that I love you guys and the shitty games you make.
Post your games so I can play them already.

>> No.253915896
Quoted By: >>253921032

>>253914327
That's pretty cool, you could easily make a vr cardgame thing and I think a lot of people would be into that if you could incorporate a lot of different rulesets that determine the mechanics.
Maybe not even just for regular cardgames but being able to do TCG rules as well (yugioh, pokemon, MtG) would make it easier to sell a game based on this.
Or you could just make the asset and sell it online for chinese companies to make vr cardgames or something.

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Quoted By: >>253935575

>oma
>spent the past year working solely on music
>just keep jamming and selecting good portions to add on to for final compositions without ever finishing them
>some day ill get back to working on my game I say

>> No.253916140

>>253910102
Fuck you that was an awesome OP

>> No.253916313
Quoted By: >>253932429

>>253910526
Randomly generated map? Awesome.

>>253912015
What the other guy said, keeping the moon still would greatly improve the look.

>> No.253916534

>>253912015
Did you make this? Or buy it somewhere
I'm looking through nighttime skyboxes right now myself

>> No.253916657
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253916657

>Only game I want to make is an "Elder Scrolls clone" with ridiculous scale
>Can see the mechanics in my head
>Can even program the basics and make the models needed
>It's just way too big of a project for any 1man to handle in any conceivable universe

Save me from this hell.

>> No.253916706

>>253916657
I want to make a daggerfall clone.

>> No.253916776
Quoted By: >>253917531

>>253916657
why the fuck would you want to clone a game where the only positive traits of the game are the lore/setting (which you're presumably not using) and the fact that they have large modding communities (which your game probably won't)

>> No.253916852

>>253916657
just get a decent workflow and shit out assets.

>> No.253916870
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Added material creation from templates and assignment.

>> No.253917224

anyone happen to know the exact version of unity that added nested prefabs? i need to get rid of this shit.

>> No.253917439

What happens when shit like gamemaker and unity gets out of date?

Aren't you back at square 1

>> No.253917531

>>253916776
>why the fuck would you want to clone a game where the only positive traits of the game are the lore/setting
Open world first person "immersive sim" RPGs are a very small niche, only really Bethesda does them. If some Indie Darling came along with even a moderately quality game people would jump on that shit quick, and that's only from a business perspective and not even from a fun perspective.

>large modding communities (which your game probably won't)
You're probably right, but considering even small games like Hat in Time have modding communities now I wouldn't put it past a moderately successful game.

>> No.253917624
Quoted By: >>253919434

>>253916657
There's like 100's of projects like that that are complete shit.

>> No.253917667
Quoted By: >>253917825

>>253917439
you just update the engine
if you can't do it without your game breaking in half, it means you either took wait too much fucking time making your game or you're using unity

>> No.253917825

>>253917667
I mean let's say someone releases a new game making engine making all others obsolete

>> No.253917852
Quoted By: >>253917936

>>253917825
then you just learn the new one.
do you think game developers just live and die by one engine?

>> No.253917880

>>253917825
You use whatever you want. People still make Doom TCs.

>> No.253917912

>>253917825
>LET'S SAY THE NEXT GIRL YOU MEET IS THE HOTTEST, MOST PERFECT PIECE OF BOOTY YOU EVER MEET AND YOU CAN TALK TO HER LIKE A HUMAN BEING AS WELL. THIS MEANS YOU SHOULD DITCH YOUR CURRENT PARTNER AND NEVER GET LAID
then you just switch after finishing the game

>> No.253917936

>>253917852
I mean opposed to learning a programming language and how to code properly

>> No.253918023

>>253917936
you will have to constantly learn new things no matter which path you choose

>> No.253918030

>>253916657
Maybe start small with a single area and add more over time ?
That seems to be the only real way that a single person could do a project like this.
I had a concept of an MMORPG sized world but for single players (or friends that could connect to you so you could play together).
You could also run your own server ala minecraft and create your own community on it.

>> No.253918170

>>253917936
If you can't code you're already ngmi though. Has there been any successful game that was done in some sort of visual/drag and drop system?

>> No.253918221

>>253918170
hollow knight

>> No.253918354

Daily reminder not to procrastinate and grind the skills you need for your game. I hope you fags have a productive day.

>> No.253918423

>>253918170
Dunno about drag n drop, but there have been a bunch successful games done in ridiculous stuff like GameMaker. See RoR. And outdated stuff like XNA is still relevant, although nowadays I'd just use Unity or UE if you're not going to write your own engine.

>> No.253918438
Quoted By: >>253921601

>>253918170
Are you seriously saying all successful games have been made with a babies connect the dots and colors toy?

>> No.253918439
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>>253918354
>daily
needs to be hourly, if not minutely.

>> No.253918856

>>253918354
Already have the skills, lack the motivation. Would give them to you guys if I could

>> No.253919289

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1052070/Burning_Daylight/

Imagine all the missed dosh

>> No.253919342

>>253918030
>I had a concept of an MMORPG sized world but for single players (or friends that could connect to you so you could play together).
>You could also run your own server ala minecraft and create your own community on it.
That's a great idea actually. Wonder why nobody has done it yet. You could even eliminate the need for servers since it's just be client based.

>> No.253919402

>>253918030
>>253919342
that's what's known as diablo 2, you retarded zoomers.

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Quoted By: >>253919591

>>253917624
Name one. I need my fix.

>> No.253919572

>Blog warning

So I'm very new to gamedev, I've been learning for a week or so, but I've been spriting and composing for a lot longer. I decided I'd have a go at making a 2d jrpg since it's my favourite genre and I have a ton of ideas and character concepts. After looking at various options I decided to try coding in java, since it seemed much more legible than C++ and I like the idea of learning a proper coding language, not a game specific one. Plus I found the slick2D framework that does a lot of the basic legwork for you which suits my non-existent coding skill.

I managed to get it setup pretty easily and get a sprite moving around a basic screen with background music playing without much effort, but I keep getting stuck and it seems that the community for slick died in about 2013. I can't find anyone to help with basic questions, and all the YouTube tutorial series are incomplete and don't cover more complex stuff. Should I keep at it or swap to unity or game maker or something?

I haven't got a whole lot of progress to lose so starting again wouldn't be a massive problem, but I think it would be more long term useful to keep learning java. My aim is really just to have an outlet to work on my coding, spriting and composition skills, but I also want to see some progress so I don't get demoralised and burn out. Any thoughts?

Tl;dr should I power through and keep learning java or switch to something easier with a bigger community?

>> No.253919591

>>253919434
I don't remember their names but i certainly remember seeing tons of them.

It's very common to see youtubers making vids on them due to their shittyness.

>> No.253919823

>>253916657
>start something by yourself
>keep going till you get to a point where you can build a demo to show off
>post about it everywhere

Plenty other people out there who wants to do the same as you, or are already doing it.

>> No.253919915
Quoted By: >>253922973

>>253919572
Learn comp sci in general, do the algorithms and datastructures course on mit opencourseware. Then jump back to whatever language. You’ll want to get familiar with programming patterns as well but not sure if there’s an easy way to do that without reading a bunch of github project code

>> No.253919959
Quoted By: >>253922973

>>253919572
Java and C# are VERY similar, you will have almost no problems switching to C#/Unity with a Java background. Coding games in Java is doable, obviously, and there are some multimedia frameworks which can easily be used to draw sprites and animations, even 3d graphics. As for your general coding skills... there are more real life jobs out there for Java devs I think, but C# comes kinda second. So it doesn't matter much. For gamedev, you'll probably be better off with C# or C++ in the long run.

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Quoted By: >>253920708

>>253919402
>that's what's known as diablo 2, you retarded zoomers.
>Diablo 2 playing anything like an MMO
>Diablo 2 having the same emphasis on group play and Tank/DPS/Heal trinity
>Diablo 2 having any of the same world design as an MMO
>Thinking you're some special, "oldschool" elite for playing one of the most famous and popular games of the past 20 years

>> No.253920643
Quoted By: >>253920697

Rigging sucks assholes.

>> No.253920697

>>253920643
guess i'm learning rigging today

>> No.253920708

>>253919572
I'd highly recommend you use RPG Maker MV or VXA, even if people are going to make fun of you for doing so.
MV uses JavaScript, and VXA uses Ruby (basically THE "prettiest" language out there).
Reading through the default scripts will give you a really good grasp on how to think about setting up an RPG environment. The scenes, objects, databases, menus, whatever.

>>253920293
>Diablo 2 not playing like an MMO
Oh, I was thinking of the wrong game then. What's that game with enchanted equipment, gear sockets, skill trees, stat allocations, leveling, aggro management via taunts, etc?
Do you think there's something else to MMOs that make them intrinsically different than what I've described?
Quit being a dumbfuck.

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253920726
Quoted By: >>253921003

https://led.itch.io/tilesetter
RELEASE WHEN

>> No.253920807

>>253920708
this is the first time I've seen someone try to seriously claim Diablo is an MMO

>> No.253920970
Quoted By: >>253921994

>>253920708
If you're going to be a reductive faggot about it then sure, Diablo is an MMO. It's a "Massively Multiplayer Online" game. Just like how Call of Duty and Minecraft are MMOs. Faggot.

>> No.253920972

>>253920807
He's saying it plays like an MMO, not that it is an MMO. Read the reply chain. Now Dark souls, THAT'S an MMO.

>> No.253921003

>>253920726
>export to GMS2
Doesn't GMS2 already feature room editing tools? Unless making a room with a third party program like this and exporting it into GMS2 is somehow more effecient?

>> No.253921007

>>253920807
And what do you think make MMOs different from D2?
That they have 4,000 player lobbies instead of 4?
That they're always online?

You know, I see it now. My mistake. Those games are definitely incomparable.

>> No.253921027

>>253919402
they probably mean a single player game that simulates world like a server
so world simulation, like oblivion's radiant ai system

>> No.253921032
Quoted By: >>253922316

>>253915896
thank you! I wouldn't mind making it VR compatible but I'm not sure how to properly test it without VR stuff. Selling it is definatly a nice idea, I'd need to clean it up a fair bit though.

>> No.253921601

>>253918438
I'm saying the exact opposite, lrn 2 reed

>> No.253921994
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>>253920970
Actually, you're right. When I look at a screenshot of random MMO #4032, I can see how it'd be silly to compare it to D2. It's just as comparable to CoD.
Sorry if I called you a bad names.

>> No.253922142

>>253919402
I never really liked the static classes of diablo.
I prefer it much more if I can just pick whatever skill tree I would want and improve on that and make my character truly mine.

>>253919342
I guess the formula works better when playing with a lot of people or something ?
I imagined it with open skilltrees (so instead of picking a static class you could just train in bows and take bow based skills if you wanted to be more of an archer for example) so you could truly make your own character.
Alas I'm more of a writer than a proper gamedev so it won't ever become a reality.

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Quoted By: >>253922658

Optimized the SVT GPU-CPU bottleneck, but now I'm having trouble with flipbooks again...

>> No.253922316

>>253921032
Just having the framework for devs to add their own cardgame rules would help a lot.
Imagine all those chinese tcg mobile games that are frothing at the mouth to release something like it on steam. You could retire from that kind of money if you make it so the license for the pack needs to be renewed yearly or so.

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okay, enough being rude. how about we just brainstorm about this "singleplayer mmo" concept?

i just thought of something genius.
sometimes it's hard finding people to party with, and even if you do, it's some randos on the internet, right?
what if you could recruit computer-controlled party members?
that way, you can always find more "players" to party with!
just a rough idea atm; gonna sleep on it.

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>>253921994
Keep being gay all you want. When people say MMO, they think and mean the WoW style behind the back, tag targetting, team based dungeon and raiding experience. Not d2. No need to reply to this post, as I have already filtered your troll ass.

>> No.253922489

>>253922341
Dragons Dogma.

>> No.253922523

>>253922341
the whole point of MMOs is either partying up with friends and accomplishing goals or joining guilds and making friends

>> No.253922658
Quoted By: >>253922758

>>253922237
Does it sort itself out if you let it run a while?

>> No.253922758
Quoted By: >>253923157

>>253922658
Yeah, it's not acceptable though. I think I need to make the SVT update every frame, it will still be one frame behind, so I need to compensate for that in the tile query pass.

>> No.253922882

>>253922341
Anon that posted the idea of the singleplayer MMO concept here, if you want I can post some of the idea's I had when I thought it up originally.

Essentially it's like any other MMO that you play online, the big difference being that it's mostly a singleplayer experience (you should be able to hire some NPC's so you have a healer or a mage if needed and give them an attack pattern to use so it doesn't feel too barren).
You could also have friends directly connect to you (or run an instance of the game as a headless server and have it open for other people to enjoy your server much like minecraft does) so you could do quests and play the game with friends.

I wanted the skill system to be as open as possible, I always hate how in MMO's you get pushed into a certain skillset (half of which you wouldn't even use because they just don't fit your particular playstyle) and would much rather have it that you could mix and match your skills as much as you want to fit your playstyle (this also makes replayability with different character styles much more likely).

As far as setting goes I never really got too much into that, I imagined a world that had already gone through a lot of the different tropes that you see in mmo's (fantasy, scifi, modern setting) and had a little bit of them mixed together but the stories of what happened in this world being so long ago that nobody really knows what exactly happened.
You could find yourself in a large dungeon that was a crashed spacestation in the desert covered by sand, or explore a run down city where the skyscrapers have been toppled and are leaning on one another, the buildings covered in plants and moss as nature reclaims the landscape. I wanted to keep this as open as possible to give more options as to explore the story in various ways.

If you have any clues on how to improve it I would love to hear about it, this was an idea I started like 10+ years ago so maybe there's a game that does this now.

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>>253922341
Online MMO where 80% of the player population is compose of a complex AI, the AI characters will never respawn after being killed.

>> No.253922973
Quoted By: >>253923826

>>253919915
Cheers for tip, I will get on that later. I'm not a compete complete beginner, I studied maths so I imagine I'll be able to pick it up pretty quickly.

>>253919959
I'll download unity and have a look, good to know my java practise won't go to waste either way.

>> No.253923092
Quoted By: >>253923821

>>253920708
I did look at RPG maker first, but one of the main things I wanted to achieve in my game is a vastly switched up battle system which rpg maker couldn't do without writing my own plugins. Looking at the default scripts though sounds very useful, I'll try that thanks.

>> No.253923157

>>253922758
How many pages per frame are you updating?

>> No.253923164

>>253922409
the D2 clone kind is far more common, and really the main thing that differs in something like WoW is the perspective, not the gameplay

>> No.253923243

>>253922964
>the AI characters will never respawn after being killed.
That's some convincing Peter desu.

>> No.253923312

>>253923157
I'm clamping it at 64 each update, which means the cap is never reached, but I'm running the update once every 4 frames. Because it has to be transferred to the CPU through a PBO, it's some frames behind as well.

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>>253922409
Okay, if I'm being serious. I get what you mean now.
Third-person cameras (... that can be rotated around! not the locked top-down ones) make all the difference.
Also, those top-down (not) MMOs just don't have the same emphasis on team based dungeons and raids.

You know, this just reminded me of this huge controversy. This one dev created a sequel to a game.. but it was a fucking MMO instead of the previous genre. Yikes.

>>253922964
Ooh, that's really interesting.. Brilliant, even. How's about calling it the Brilliant AI?

>> No.253923821
Quoted By: >>253924474

>>253923092
Yeah, you have to write your own scripts to create your own custom battle system.. but what exactly do you think you'll be doing when using other game engines?
You'll ALWAYS have to write your own scripts if you want your own battle system. This isn't exclusively a con to RPG Maker. You still benefit from everything else laid out for you, that are also still heavily customizeable.

The only real downsides to RPG Maker are that it costs money (assuming you aren't pirating it), and the stigma of cheap RPG Maker trash games.

>> No.253923826

>>253922973
>I’ll get on it later
Bad idea

>> No.253923832

>got back from a JS lecture
>Diablo 2 is a MMO
what the actual fuck happened to AGDG in last months
where is all this autism came from

>> No.253923872
Quoted By: >>253925291

>>253923157
Not sure if I explained it correctly, the tiles are loaded as they are seen by the camera, on normal textures you can't notice anything, on animated textures, you're always behind.

>> No.253924059

>>253923832
>>253920972

>> No.253924080 [SPOILER]
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[SPOILER]

>got back from a JK "lecture"
>Call of Duty and Minecraft are just as similar to MMOs as D2
what the literal fuck happened to /agdg/ in this past year?
where is all this autism coming from?

>> No.253924152
Quoted By: >>253924610

>>253921994
>>253923364
>>253924080
you havin fun over there, champ?

>> No.253924291

>>253923832
99% of MMOs being WoW clones made people think its a genre instead of just gameplay mode like single/multiplayer, and they're too stupid to expand the acronym
>make online chess
>nice multiplayer game!

>>253924080
What makes diablo an MMO?
>add a global chat
>WOW, its an MMO now!

>> No.253924324
Quoted By: >>253924467

>>253923364
>ragnarok online
>not mmo
retard gonna retard

>> No.253924467

>>253924324
that's clearly sarcasm, he's mocking the people saying that d2 doesn't play like a singleplayer mmo by providing an example of an mmo (ragnarok) that has similar gameplay and perspective

>> No.253924474
Quoted By: >>253925975

>>253923821
Obviously yeah, my thinking was that if I'm going to have to do a sizable portion myself, I may as well learn to do the whole thing myself? It'll probably be less effort in the long run that way, and I'll develop broader skills. But I do see your point, I may be taking on too much.

>> No.253924610

>>253924152
honestly, yeah. i got it out of my system now.
back to fixing prefab errors.

>> No.253924743
Quoted By: >>253924808

I just looked at my hamster from above. Guys, is... is my hamster an MMO?

>> No.253924790
Quoted By: >>253927958

About a year ago I started trying to make a game in Unity, very simple stuff, everything was fine and dandy, except I tried to update Unity recently and found out that apparently it no longer comes with MonoDevelop, which I was happy using. I hate how cluttered Visual Studio and all these other ones are, but I've never used any IDE before this one or anything of the sort, and don't know how to manually setup MonoDevelop so it works with Unity. All I want is for it to autocomplete like it always has so I don't have to get stuck with old versions of Unity forever or force myself to use something else. Can anyone help a brainlet out? I have no problem dealing with anything -inside- Unity but the second an outside problem pops up I have no fucking clue. Or, if no one knows, at the very least can anyone recommend a VERY lightweight alternative to MonoDevelop that I can set up so it works the same way?

>> No.253924808
Quoted By: >>253925108

>>253924743
is he grinding randomised loot in a dungeon?

>> No.253924890

>>253917439
The skills are transferrable. If you're an ace at Unity you can pick up UE4 in a month or two at most. Language isn't an issue, if you can learn one language but not another then you're some sort of special retard. Workflow and asset management is the biggest difficulty.

>> No.253924947
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253924947
Quoted By: >>253925045

>he thinks MMO describes a type of gameplay

>> No.253925024

>>253920807
Really? I've seen a lot of people claim as such. Though I don't agree with them.

>> No.253925045

>>253924947
see >>253920972
I swear I'm the smartest person in this thread but you're not bad

>> No.253925108

>>253924808
He spinning on a wheel so I give him food in his cage. Oh God

>> No.253925248

>>253925108
Is he selling the food?

>> No.253925287

>>253925108
Okay yeah he's an MMO

>> No.253925291
Quoted By: >>253925479

>>253923872
So are you thinking buffering the frames in advance?

>> No.253925479

>>253925291
Yeah, but not sure how, the tile query pass is derived from the visual shader graph, maybe just setting the timer on the query pass 3 frames ahead will fix it.

>> No.253925702

I'm running out of beer.

>> No.253925975

>>253924474
People make too big of a deal out of learning new languages/engines.
Like in their minds,
>learn java in 1 year
>need to learn C#? learn C# in 0.9 year
>need to learn C++? learn C++ in 0.8 year

When in actuality, it's more like
>learn java in 1 year
>need to learn C#? learn C# in 0.1 year
>need to learn C++? learn C++ in 0.05 year

So it's not like you'll end up wasting your time learning how to script in RM. The biggest hurdle to programming/gamedev is just getting in the right logic-based mindset. Once you're at that point, you can learn anything else easily.
With the upside that you'll be familiar with how typical RPGs setup their underlying systems, rather than coming up with it yourself.

>> No.253926237

>>253925975
Pretty much this. Learning a new coding language isn't really like learning a new language. It's more like learning a variation of a language you already know. Like if you spoke english, and tried to learn to speak like a chav.

>> No.253926382

>>253925975
bullshit
it's been 3 years since I was trying to learn c#/JS

>> No.253927438

I guess I'm going to shower, then play MGS1 while finishing my last six-pack of cheap beer. Milwaukee's Best. If this is the best Milwaukee has to offer then we're in trouble.

>> No.253927679
Quoted By: >>253928549

>>253927438
What does this have to do with video game development?

>> No.253927958
Quoted By: >>253952513

>>253924790
The name may put you off, but Visual Studio Code is actually a pretty great alternative. It's essentially a light-weight version of Visual Studio

>> No.253928228
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253928228

>>253912015

>> No.253928549
Quoted By: >>253940012

>>253927679
Well, I'm interested in revisiting all the best narratives in gaming to get ideas for a game story. I should be getting a computer soon ,so I'm just biding my time and hanging out in a comfy thread. I'll go now

>> No.253928768

>>253928228
>appropriating Japanese culture
that is problematic

>> No.253928951
Quoted By: >>253929043

>>253928768
Im a mutt so its okay

>> No.253929043

>>253928951
oh okay worried you were white carry on

>> No.253929170

>>253928768
>implying anyone cares
I'm making my game about racial stereotypes and there's nothing you can do about it.

>> No.253931631
Quoted By: >>253942031

>>253916870
looks neat

>> No.253931826
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253931826

Minecraft: Enginedev
Terraria: Enginedev

>> No.253931995

>>253931826
my game: nodev

>> No.253932085
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253932085

Reposting

Doing capitol killing logic and animations, then AI

>> No.253932107

terraria + zork

>> No.253932220

>>253931826
Both: good ideas
XNA is a framework aka engine-light, I'd give you lwjgl cause it's a lib
It's not like minecraft has good optimization anyway and terraria devs had problems with XNA

>> No.253932268

>>253910102
>girls
discord tranny edition?

>> No.253932429

>>253912015
>>253912218
>>253916313
if the moon is moving then so are the mountains. only clouds should be moving.

>> No.253932665
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253932665

some new environment

>> No.253933112

What's a good formula for working out total damage when taking attacker strength, weapon damage, and enemy toughness into account?

>> No.253933368

So, the game starts off telling the Irish Green Beret (who resembles Sean Bean) that his task is to assassinate Adolf Hitler by any means possible and gets dropped in on the outskirts of Berlin in a forest, where he is kept in contact with a local resistance movement by walkie-talkie for assistance in the lay of the land as well as general tutorial and tips. He's told to meet with a contracted member of the resistance movement in the form of a French spy resembling Sean Connery. As the Green Beret approaches the tavern on the outskirts of Berlin a cutscene is shown of the well-dressed spy playing cards with a group and drinking liquor quietly - you don't see his face yet - until another German soldier cheats. The spy is then shown staring down the cheater until he finally goes through a Sherlock-style rundown with a cutscene of the past showing the German hiding a card up his sleeve. The German acts as if he's been caught red-handed but the spy proceeds to shoot every German soldier at the table. He then takes the money and hurriedly makes for the door and walks to a clearing on the edge of the forest where he meets the Green Beret at the meeting spot. The two of them feel each other out and confirm their mission, which is to, through espionage, execute Hitler. The spy informs the Green Beret that they should leave the area as quickly as possible as a civilian from the tavern most likely told a nearby Gestapo unit of his shooting the soldiers. The player then makes use of the spy's limited ammunition Welrod and disguising ability and the Green Beret's knife to open up passages that the Green Beret couldn't get past on his own. You may pick up weapons and use them, such as the MP40, but allguards in the vicinity will swarm on the position it was fired from, and as ammo will be scarce, mostly stealth will be the best approach.

>> No.253933471
Quoted By: >>253934456

>>253933112
Your average enemy should die in one hit. Your average weapon should kill your average enemy in one hit. Go from there

>> No.253933578

>>253933368
The Saboteur's already been made, anon

>> No.253933661
Quoted By: >>253935586

>>253933368
this shitpost has blossomed into a beautiful meme

>> No.253933909

>>253933112
your average enemy should die in 5 strong hits, or 20 weak hits.

>> No.253934247
Quoted By: >>253935026

>>253933112
Really depends on the type of game. Real time or turn based? Fighting a bunch of garbage enemies or a few stronger enemies? Do you want attacker strength to be more important than weapon damage, vice versa, or equally important? How do you want the target defense to work? Some games have defense reduce damage by a percentage, meaning it works the same on any type of attack. Some games make defense reduce damage by a fixed amount, meaning it's better at defending against weak attacks and less effective against strong attacks. Some games make defense just increase your chance to dodge an attack instead of actually reducing damage.

>> No.253934281
Quoted By: >>253934636

Anyone have any ideas for what forces to apply to a ragdoll getting hit by a sword to make it look good when it dies? I've tried setting an angular velocity on the torso to make it spin like it was hit but it looks like ass. Also tried adding force impulses around the body but I can't seem to make it look good.

>> No.253934456

>>253933112
what's a bad one?

for attacker strength and weapon damage I your choice is addition or multiplication.
let's say strength 3, weapon 4. if you add them you get effective damage 7. if you multiply you get effective damage 12. addition results in a more linear progression as you level up. multiplication means that as a starting player you can't do SHIT to advanced enemies, they are completely out of your reach, taking comical amounts of hits without a scratch. I would choose addition for this reason but I don't know your gameplay plans.

then for the defensive component you have a similar choice. subtraction or multiplication/division (same behavior, just different numbers). subtraction can result in 0 damage hits which I think are silly so I would go with division. why division and not multiplication? because it allows you to use the displayed values. you don't want to display "defensive multiplier 0.5" or something like that, confusing the players. you want higher numbers to be better in a progression system.

to put the whole thing together: (attacker strength + attacker weapon damage) / victim toughness

this simple formula always returns a positive value and scales nicely. I'm more of a shooter guy but we have similar problems with systems like "armor" or "shields".

>>253933471
that's not what he's asking, I think. any formula can be filled with variables that result in this design but 1) it's subjective / situational whether this is how things should work and 2) since it can be done with any formula it doesn't help him pick a formula.

>> No.253934636

>>253934281
you have to apply several forces around the body to replicate the thousand cuts inflicted upon the victim within a split second.

>> No.253934839
Quoted By: >>253940012

>>253933368
As they approach Hitler's Berlin headquarters Hitler is seen saluting his SS bodyguard unit from his Mercedes-Benz when another cutscene is shown of a rifle scope. The sniper is shown briefly behind the scope and he talks to the other resistance members informing them he has a shot from the top of a building. He attempts to take a shot after informing the Green Beret and the spy that they should clean up the mess. The sniper will be a young naive Russian who bungles the shot after a change in wind direction. Hitler then perks up and sees the sniper glint on the roof and screams "schnappt sie!" with a contorted face. The guards then swarm searching for enemies. Justice's Helix or like music kicks in as you have to escape from Berlin, avoiding guards and shooting larger groups of four or five. Hitler then appears at the edge of Berlin in his Mercedes-Benz where he screams that they won't survive in the forest for long. You then make it back to the resistance movement HQ where the commander informs you you'll have to start from square one as Hitler has increased his security by injecting more troops to Berlin. The next tasks are to kill Goering, Himmler and Goebbels. The Green Beret, spy and sniper meet up with the Chinese explosives expert, Midwestern tank driver and Canadian diver/marine.

I need to think more. Once I get my computer it'll be easier to make ideas. I'm using a damn PS4 controller.

>> No.253934887

>>253934456
>>253933112
really you need a more descriptive requirement than "nice". What sort of experience are you trying to evoke out of the play with combat?

>since it can be done with any formula it doesn't help him pick a formula
Trivially you can have an infinite number of formulae give the same result. The factors which will help you pick one over another are 1) do you intend to expose the formula to the player? If so you want one that is simple and flavourful. and 2) do you want to have a hard time implementing it or not?
You want an easy formula no matter what. Elegance in game design translates to an elegant game

>> No.253934971
Quoted By: >>253935148

>>253933112
hey, followup question:
what's a good music genre for my game, considering i need a short song, a long song, and a really long song?

>> No.253935026

>>253934247
>>253934456

Thanks for the detailed answers, I suppose I really need to think more deeply about what I want the combat to be like.

As it is right now, I'm using a basic top-down, real time combat system with lock on, a simple attack and a simple block. I do sort of like the idea of using multiplication as I'd like to have some larger enemies which are extremely difficult to defeat and shouldn't be possible at all for a low level character.

For now I will use your suggestion of (attacker strength + attacker weapon damage) / victim toughness, as it's simple and seems functional.

>> No.253935148

>>253934971

This is nowhere near the same level of vagueness desu

>> No.253935275

>>253935148
wtf i didnt type desu?

>> No.253935341

>>253935275

actually I did, so joke's on you

>> No.253935418

>>253935275
welcome to 4chan

>> No.253935575

>>253915965
you will
I was in your position a few months ago and the music just "came" to me and I had great progress with music

and now I don't ..
don't let it pass you by

>> No.253935586
Quoted By: >>253940012

>>253933661
I WANT it to be a meme game. Absolutely ridiculous. The boss battles with Goering, Himmler and Goebbels will be fun. Haven't thought how I'll execute them yet. It will go off the rails somehow during Hitler's first appearance. I need to inject camp

>> No.253935753

>>253935275
You clearly did anon

>> No.253935790

>>253935026
cool. the one thing to keep in mind with super tough late enemies is that if they're so far away from the other enemies stats-wise then once the player can beat them it guarantees that the rest of the enemies have become a complete joke that you basically stroll through. do you want this? if the player can defeat a god he has to be a god. do you want the player to become an untouchable god in the late game?

>> No.253935947
Quoted By: >>253936415

>>253935790
>it guarantees that the rest of the enemies have become a complete joke that you basically stroll through
so basically every game ever?

>> No.253936073
Quoted By: >>253936532

>>253935790

I was hoping for the odd demon/dragon type guy that only the people who play for a long time (and do especially well, I intend to have permadeath) will face. The earlier enemies will probably not be faced at that stage as I intend to heavily dissuade people from backtracking.

Saying that, that gives the player the option of staying in one area and becoming extremely strong by grinding.

A lot to think about.

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>> No.253936415

>>253935947
depends on the genre. over the last decade or so stats-progression has seeped from RPGs over into every other kind of game. but in my genre, FPS, most games don't make you a god except sometimes by giving you overpowered weapons in the late game. in that scenario you still have to worry about getting hit though, you're only a god if you shoot first. only classic RPGs universally have the high HP + high damage progression where early enemies become a complete joke. I would also differentiate between games where this happens eventually and games where it happens almost immediately. what's the average hour in the game like? if you become a god after 5 hours then the experience of the game overall is that of a god that strolls through hordes of cannon fodder. if you only unlock the nuclear sword of split atoms in the last chapter then maybe up until that part the early enemies were still relevant.

>> No.253936532
Quoted By: >>253936965

>>253936073
>The earlier enemies will probably not be faced at that stage as I intend to heavily dissuade people from backtracking.
are you sure this is a realistic plan, assuming you develop this game alone? visiting the same areas multiple times is typically how RPGs manage their long play-time. how are you going to build a linear world large enough to cover a typical RPG play-time (say, at least 20 hours)?

>> No.253936621
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>>253916657

I was the same with my first game, scope was way to large for 1man, but I've gradually changed to smaller scale projects over the last few years.

I've been practicing recursive algorithms recently and it made me think about how I tackle game development. If you want to make a game, just make like one little level or area that works first.

Ie. Want to make an arpg? Do a little a area like a room. Add a character, add an enemy, add some items. Does everything work? Is it fun? Add an enemy, add an item, add another room and just organically grow outward.

Throw up a demo on the demo day. Throw a demo at your friends. Throw up a demo on Steam. Let people shit on you. Grow from their critique. Keep adding little things week after week and someday down the line you have made it.

Start small. Really small. Build outward, step by step.

(There are a few devs on AGDG that have done this to great success and are actively doing this. This advice is primarily for those who come up with grand ideas, but never implement anything.)

>> No.253936916

>>253936621
dumb reddit spacing.

>> No.253936965

>>253936532

Most of my game will be procedurally generated. The RPG features will be fairly light, too.

>> No.253936983
Quoted By: >>253937068

Which build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HjbjMZ

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qs97jy

>> No.253937068
Quoted By: >>253937272

>Throw up a demo on the demo day
you know people keep avoiding demo day but this is a giant misstep

if you can hit d-day you can make it
>>253936983
the more expensive one silly

>> No.253937225

>>253936621
This is good advice.

>> No.253937227
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253937227

>>253928228
>>253912015
i love this

IM GONNA MAKE A GOOD SKYBOX LIKE MY HERO BOKU!!

>> No.253937272
Quoted By: >>253937409

>>253937068
I'll reach more people by tweeting out my demo than I ever would with memeo day

>> No.253937386

>>253928228

the moon looks pretty shitty to me, honestly.

>> No.253937409

>>253937272
i think it's not about how much people you reach
but actually sticking to a firm release date

>> No.253937546
Quoted By: >>253941865

>>253935148
but you still practically can't give any real advice without knowing more. like they thought >>253934456 was a helpful post, when in actuality, you can falsify every single statement by just changing other aspects of the game.

>addition results in a more linear progression as you level up
what if each time you level up/upgrade gear, your attack doubles?
>multiplication means that as a starting player you can't do SHIT to advanced enemies, they are completely out of your reach, taking comical amounts of hits without a scratch.
what if the damage mitigation from armor isn't significant?
what if the range of defense from squishiest to tankiest is merely a 1.0 modifier to a 0.5 modifier?

>subtraction can result in 0 damage hits which I think are silly so I would go with division.
why is 0 damage bad? why is subtraction bad?
starcraft applies defense through subtraction. did that result in silliness? was the game not balanceable?
what if the defense values never reach the attack values?

>why division and not multiplication? because it allows you to use the displayed values. you don't want to display "defensive multiplier 0.5" or something like that, confusing the players. you want higher numbers to be better in a progression system.
what if you multiply your raw damage by ((100 - defense) / 100)? now you're multiplying your raw damage by some decimal value, but you get to have defense values ranging from 0 to 100.

so that entire post could mean absolutely nothing depending on the game.

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Quoted By: >>253938660

hows the skybox coming along vros

>> No.253938660

>>253938402
Your moon looks like shit! You should make it move around.

>> No.253938756

>>253935026
I like using the formula
80 / (80 + defense)
for how much the damage is reduced. You can replace both 80's with different numbers but they must be the same number. What this means is that at 0 defense damage taken is 100%, at 80 defense damage taken is 50%, and at infinite defense damage taken is 0%. As you gain more defense each point of defense contributes less and less to overall protection. It's basically the same as your formula but much less extreme. In your formula a toughness of 2 reduces damage by 50% immediately, there's no finer control unless you want to use floats for the toughness value.

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253938976
Quoted By: >>253939508

>>253938660
thats too complex for me

>> No.253939060

There are MIT-licensed, working, fast, tested libraries for ECS
https://github.com/SanderMertens/flecs
There are MIT-licensed, working, SUPER fast libraries for general use made by fucking FACEBOOK
https://github.com/facebook/folly
There is a MIT-licensed, working, fast (optimization is a priority because Android is one of the targets) PBR renderer made by GOOGLE
https://github.com/google/filament

Stop relying on Juan's incompetence. You need minimal C++ knowledge and you can create your own, stupid fast engine. Godot is ETERNALLY btfo'd

>> No.253939085

>>253925975
This is good advice thanks anon

I've decided I'm gonna stick with java and get the most out of it that I can, when I feel I have a solid grasp I'll reevaluate and go from there.

>> No.253939208

>>253939060
Neat, but I want to make a video game, not an engine.

>> No.253939305

Is there no way to detect when shape traces hit other shape traces in UE4? I'm using traces for attack hitboxes but I need them to detect each other for weapon clashing like smash bros has. I guess I have to switch to primitive overlaps.

>> No.253939401
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>>253938660
ditherING kINooOOO FILTER APPLIED!!!

>> No.253939441

>>253939060
Why anyone would use Godot is beyond me. Its like all the work of enginedev but none of the payoff.

>> No.253939508
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253939508
Quoted By: >>253939706

>>253938976
here i helped

>> No.253939627

>start making a turn based fantasy RPG
>Feel like it's a dime-a-dozen

How do you make something stand out when it feels like it's in a saturated market?

>> No.253939706
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253939706
Quoted By: >>253939795

>>253939508
how do you get gifs to work in fbx?
>>253939627
SOUL

>> No.253939795

>>253939706
i dont know sorry

>> No.253939897
Quoted By: >>253940049

>>253939627
What type of turn based fantasy RPG would you like to play ?

>> No.253940012

>>253927438
>>253928549
>>253933368
>>253935586
>>253934839
here is my contact info in case you missed it, >>253889745
I can do 3d models, 3d animation and 2d concept art hit me up at 33ddartgrfx@protonmail.com
you can send some more of your ideas and info there.

>> No.253940049

>>253939897
Outside of a fun battle system where things like status effects matter I want one where the characters feel like a group of believable people where they actually interact with each other outside of "main guy bad" or very obvious love interests.

>> No.253940421

>>253940012
i talked to you before, your portfolio is absolute trash

the worst thing you can do for yourself is call you a 3d anything, you're anything but, you're an actual meme

>> No.253940453
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>>253940049
Perfect, all you have to do is to follow those points.

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253940495
Quoted By: >>253941202

>>253940049
>Turn based rpg where it's entirely status effects
Now that's a hook!

>> No.253940762

>>253940421
anon, I never posted my contact info till last thread and no one has contacted me yet, you have me confused with some one else.

>> No.253940915
Quoted By: >>253941795

>>253940421
anyone that doesn't post their work upfront is a meme, to be fair

>> No.253940996
Quoted By: >>253941795

>>253940421
i contacted him and he wanted to pay before he showed work, literal scam

>> No.253941202
Quoted By: >>253941893

>>253940495
I might pocket that idea. But I meant where buffing attack shouldn't be the only viable option. Or the boss is immune to stuff all the time.

>> No.253941795

>>253940915
I didn't post work because I want to keep any potential work for this client confidential, since he was arrested for a hate speech or whatever.
>>253940996
that was not me, I haven't been contacted by anyone yet, and your story don't even line up, he >>253940421 said the guy had a shit portfolio, and you are saying he won't show his portfolio until you pay him, which is obviously a scam. so unles other poster was retarded enough to pay him to see his shitty work, then you are also mistaken me with two other people.

>> No.253941865

>>253937546
All the "but what if"s you constructed require added complexity. Most obvious example, the formula:
>what if you multiply your raw damage by ((100 - defense) / 100)?
Of course you can do this but doing what I suggested is simpler. Added complexity results in more headaches for the developer, less intuitive game behavior from the player's perspective and it can also lead to inferior performance. If you approach all of game development with the attitude
>should I rework the foundation of my design? no, I can make any arbitrary design / structure work if I just add enough complexity
the result will be a nightmare process and an inferior game.

>what if each time you level up/upgrade gear, your attack doubles?
it shouldn't because that results in retarded scaling where after just one or two upgrades all early enemies are a joke. then if you're a genius bethesda designer you slap level scaling on top of that and you get a piece of shit like vanilla oblivion. or you "fix" the huge steps in your progression by using extremely large integers (in place of decimals) so now your UI is full with pop ups saying "756" and "10314" which block the player's view and take more time to read. added complexity never truly masks underlying design flaws, those always shine through.

>what if the damage mitigation from armor isn't significant?
>what if the range of defense from squishiest to tankiest is merely a 1.0 modifier to a 0.5 modifier?
if "armor" isn't significant then you shouldn't have "armor" at all. every feature should be significant.

>why is 0 damage bad?
0 damage hits are a legitimate mechanic but you don't want it as the result of a calculation. 0 damage is something situational (enemy immune to weapon type, magic type, whatever) so there's no need for a calculation. think of what you're trying to represent. it makes no sense for a very low impact to be rounded down to nothing. it's still an impact.

>> No.253941893
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253941893
Quoted By: >>253942087

da skybox is done bros
>>253940049
>>253941202
not if i pocket it first mwhahaha

>> No.253941992
Quoted By: >>253942102

>>253941795
>since he was arrested for a hate speech or whatever.
Oh yeah forgot about that. lol the whole story is a little outlandish honestly.

>> No.253942031

>>253931631
thanks for the u

>> No.253942041

>dude what if an RPG about the most boring aspect of RPG combat possible
galaxy brain ideaguying here

>> No.253942087
Quoted By: >>253942516

>>253941893

too late, already implemented it into my game

>> No.253942102
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253942102

>>253941992
the most progress he made was making pc build posts
let that sink in
and some how anons want to work with him

>> No.253942148

>>253932665
>progress post, no (you)'s
>followed by two ideashitposters
>thousands of (you)'s

>> No.253942239

>>253941795
Thank you for the offer, but there's too much negative clout surrounding you now, I will have to seek another modeler.

>> No.253942249

>>253942148

you are probably the most obnoxious dev other than boku, and even he isn't so bad anymore

>> No.253942354

>>253942249
I'm not the progress poster, I was just scrolling by and noticed that. I'm a nodev.

>> No.253942362

>>253942249
>obnoxious
there's that word again, sad to see you still haven't learned to use it properly

>> No.253942395
Quoted By: >>253942538

>>253942148
>see a progress post
>see a shitpost
>decide to shitpost about shitposting instead of replying to the progress post
You're a part of the problem.

>> No.253942502

>>253932665
>>253942148
did you want feedback? okay, why does the player keep moving left and right and jumping? the bridge goes forward only so are these extra movements pointless? is there a threat of falling off? the scene obviously looks cool but what do you DO in this game other than move forward?

>> No.253942516

>>253942087
My game is already shipping with that as it's main mechanic
2slow4me

>> No.253942538

>>253942395
shiiiiet, you got me.
>>253932665
Great work mang. Keep it up.

>> No.253942765
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253942765

>>253942148

>> No.253942837

>>253942148
if you have a good, fun looking game like crumbledev then there isn't much for others too respond about.
>>253942239
I don't think you are really him, and if you are then you were probably just shitposting this whole time, and not really looking to hire anyone.

>> No.253942867

>Supposed to make game
>Masturbate, eat junk food and watch videos instead

Anyone else know this feel?

>> No.253942968

>>253942837
Damn. I think this guy is further along with schizophrenia than I am. LOL.

>> No.253943028
Quoted By: >>253943994

>>253942837
>hold forward to win
>fun looking game
You must think modern sonic games are masterpieces.

>> No.253943101
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253943101

>>253942968
theres like 7 schizo posters on agdg and only like two of them has a game

>> No.253943458

>>253942867
I want to take my Ableton music prowess into game design. I was put off on learning a programming language from the bottom up but now I feel comfortable learning Unreal. You need to have a vision and know what you like about games. My social deficits cement me as a game designer. Besides politics, I have no other ambition.

>> No.253943743

>>253942867
I wish my life was that great

>> No.253943776

>>253911997
dont know if you are already doing this
but have a feeling or story you want to convey with your music
Have it all seem like one piece with reacuring themes
ups and downs

>> No.253943821

>>253943101
Norm MacDonald's brother is schizo. That's why Norm's so genius. It's in the genes

>> No.253943854
Quoted By: >>253943908

>>253943101
> and only like two of them has a game
who?

>> No.253943908
Quoted By: >>253944289

>>253943854
ca3 and vetta-vetka

>> No.253943994
Quoted By: >>253944235

>>253942968
>>253943101
what is schizophrenic, about thinking that some one is pretending to be him, or do you think the guy who was arrested for hate speech is turned off from a modeler by some "negative clout", that I proved they were confusing me with two other anons, by there on story's not matching up.
>>253943028
it still in a more polished state then most games here, and there for less to discus about it.

>> No.253944235
Quoted By: >>253944910

>>253943994
ya idk/c dude you just seem like someone trying to fuck with him proclaiming to be a 3dguy

>> No.253944289
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253944289

>>253943908
>tfw i didn't make the schizolist

>> No.253944910
Quoted By: >>253946345

>>253944235
fair enough I could see why some one would think that, but I'm just a artist trying to earn some extra money, and no one else was talking about hiring.

>> No.253945061

Here's another old concept. I'm not sure on the music now. I know I want analog warmth and disco beats. Hmm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4IHmfOg0t0&bpctr=1558462551

>> No.253946345
Quoted By: >>253947631

>>253944910
You're exactly the type of person I'm looking for here. Soon, once I get a new computer I'll need an artist for character models who hopefully has the same grand vision as me. I've played just about every game I'm interested in and want to make my own now. I can work 8-16 hour days and I plan to, asking for assistance at every turn. I will make it.

>> No.253946523
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253946523

Cosmo is making a game with Godot. Has anyone seen this screencaps on agdg before?

https://imgur.com/a/6iWSaLI (NSFW)

>> No.253946705

>>253946523
I remember Cosmo did ask some questions on the Godot discord a couple months ago. Never seen the game though.

>> No.253946769
Quoted By: >>253947136

>>253946523
how come trans gamedevs always make sexualized females?

>> No.253946787

I'm gonna go ahead and order my parts. I'm looking for a $750 build off PCPartpicker to reduce to $500 on ebay through used parts.

>> No.253946989

>>253946787
>not buying an apple computer, the machine of true artist
windows is unhealthy and like fast food
linux is like eating raw unprocessed grass

>> No.253947118
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253947118
Quoted By: >>253947410

Retard here. How do you detect collision between two moving objects like pic related?

I completely lost all my knowledge of high school geometry, so the best I could think of is tracking the position of every corner, then create 4 lines connecting all of them along the edges, then say that if the center of the circle is closer to two or more of the lines than the length of it's radius, then they're colliding and the circle bounces off.

But that seems like WAY too many "if" checks for something this basic. Especially if I'd want to add another obstacle. I'm clearly missing something.

>> No.253947136
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253947136
Quoted By: >>253947283

>>253946769

>> No.253947283

>>253947136
this is some high IQ shit right here

>> No.253947410
Quoted By: >>253947780

>>253947118
Bing OBB vs Circle and you'll get some stack overflow hyper autistic person's optimized equation solution

>> No.253947631

>>253946345
>>253946787
I take it this >>253942239 poster wasn't you like I thought. Well my info is here>>253940012 just get in touch with me there.

>>253946989
this what macfags actually believe

>> No.253947780
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253947780
Quoted By: >>253947929

>>253947410
huh. never would've thought of that.
thanks, man

>> No.253947880

youtuber played my prototype and shit on it hard, asked him for a do-over, he said no
why are influencers so fucking toxic

>> No.253947929

>>253947780
gl custom collision is a nightmare

>> No.253947968
Quoted By: >>253948787

>>253946989

if anything, mac is the processed food in your analogy

>> No.253948054

>>253947880
cool LARP enjoy your 15 minutes of dopamine

>> No.253948121

>>253947880
link?

>> No.253948218

>>253947880
>tuber won't play my shitty game, again after he played it once, and found out it was shit, why are they so toxic guuys.

>> No.253948467

One thing, isn't microATX unoverclockable?

>> No.253948568
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253948568

>boss walks around and jumps randomly
>there's instant contact damage
What a fucking frustrating combination.

>> No.253948778

>>253919572
>another anon using slick2d
i thought I was the only one, your gonna make it

>> No.253948787
Quoted By: >>253948874

>>253947968
Windows and apple are mystery meats that probably have a couple of parts missing from that guy that pissed off the wrong people
Linux is a set of nicely cut animal pieces, but some of them are missing and some of them were stored improperly. You also get a dvd with the recording of the animal being gored into what was delivered to you

>> No.253948874
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253948874

>>253948787

>> No.253948892

What engine is good for an audio based game with really basic visuals ?

>> No.253948995
Quoted By: >>253949217

>>253948892
anything that supports FMOD

>> No.253949045
Quoted By: >>253949195

>>253948874
>top
Janky car made by a man fueled by his passion

>bottom
soulless generic high quality car made by a faceless corporation

>> No.253949179

>>253946523
>Cosmo is making a game with Godot.
if that's not proof godot is a meme I can't help you fags, holy shit.

>> No.253949194
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253949194

>>253948874

>> No.253949195
Quoted By: >>253949359

>>253949045
>janky
>high quality
indeed

>> No.253949217

>>253948892
>>253948995
am i the only one who thinks its just flat out easier to hard code audio stuff in your game then dealing with Fmod?

this shit looks like another DAW and don't you need to license it? is it leaked?

>> No.253949359
Quoted By: >>253949640

>>253949195
rather have something janky and soulful rather than something polished and soulless

>> No.253949491
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253949491
Quoted By: >>253991391

What time do you wake up in the morning
I either wake up way too late or too early and that always makes me unproductive

>> No.253949561
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253949561

I keep playing these games off patreon. So many of them are just models and animations dropped into a an environment. No game play otherwise. It's so shameful. I'm literally going to cry.

>> No.253949640

>>253949359
true for art, but I like to rely on my tools. something that fails often or requires absurd amounts of tweaking is not acceptable.

>> No.253949715

>>253949561
Throw some money at Adam Sawkins (Fortresscraft Evolved dev) if that's your thing. At least FCE is a great game, and he needs your support to buy cocaine and hookers.

>> No.253949904

>>253949561
>3D porn game with ass/breast physics, and liquids
>Not bestiality fetish game makes more money than my game
If you want to make money, make a porn game.

>> No.253950140
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253950140

>1500$ in debt because i had to buy another synthesizer
>porn degenerates make 56k a month

is there any hope for us wholesome devs? i don't want to sell out and make a porno game

>> No.253950196

>>253950140
Use a fucking VST you retard.

>> No.253950335
Quoted By: >>253950657

>>253950140
Why would a dev need a synthesizer? You're just an artfag, fag.

>> No.253950359
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253950359
Quoted By: >>253951483

>>253950196
no vst can do what a mc 808 can do

>> No.253950440

>>253950196
>just fuck your soul up with a VST
VST are hallow shells of those who were never there, it's like knowingly inviting a ghost into your pc

>> No.253950501
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253950501

>>253950140
>tfw making a porn game

>> No.253950657
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253950657
Quoted By: >>253951574

>>253950335
but i have a soundtrack on spotify that got 20 views
i-i..im gonna MAKE it
>>253950501
tux u cant wear your tux in bed stop it!

>> No.253950767

>>253950140
There are a few successful wholesome devs. They're usually using patreon as a paywall for their tutorials and assets though, Or they're making a game that appeals to a certain crowd of autists.

>> No.253950915

>>253950140
https://youtu.be/ZcKlKswv6TE

>> No.253950960
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253950960

>>253950501
same, all these moral fags getting btfo.

>> No.253951183

>>253950915
Any ambitious porn game gets shitloads of money

>> No.253951205
Quoted By: >>253951702

Is that furry action rpg dev making bank yet?

>> No.253951483
Quoted By: >>253951938

>>253950359
It's a sampler and bog standard sound generator. I guarantee there's nothing only it is capable of.

Besides robbing your dumb ass of $1500.

>> No.253951574

>>253950657
My weed dealer has more views on his spotify than you, with random hardcore tekkno mixes he makes when he's really fucked up. But good luck fren, I'm not laughing at you.

>> No.253951702

>>253951205
He's loaded by now.
with semen

>> No.253951938
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253951938
Quoted By: >>253952916

>>253951483
it has motorized faders!!
damn it i fucked up again didn't i??

>> No.253952123
Quoted By: >>253956187

reminder that branching paths and procedural generation don't add replayability, they remove it.
In procgen game it's impossible to replay it unless you can manually set the random seed.
In games with branching paths replaying is discourged since you won't see all the content if you do the same thing each playthrough.

>> No.253952197
Quoted By: >>253952605

So I'm trying to make a top down spaceship shooter game [spoilers] in unity [/spoilers] and I'm using the mouse and raycasts for the player's ship to rotate. I've gotten the ship to rotate and follow the direction of the mouse, but i want to slow down how quickly the ship rotates, so that it takes time to catch up to the mouse cursor's direction. How would i go about this?

>> No.253952384

Another thread with barely any progress that gets buried under shitposts. And the frogposter just woke up so this thread is finished.

>> No.253952513
Quoted By: >>253967219

>>253927958
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I'm testing it now and it looks nice enough, but there's one difference. Namely, when MonoDevelop used to autocomplete things or when I hovered over them, if they had a description it would show it to me. How can I make VS Code do the same? Sorry if I word it too weird, but as I said, while I can handle myself with the actual code, I have no clue how to make programs interact with each other.

>> No.253952514
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253952514

>>253952384
but i posted progress already

>> No.253952605
Quoted By: >>253953229

>>253952197
PID controller if you want realistic forces
just cap your rotation speed with rotatetowards if you want instant rotation but capped speed

>> No.253952716
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253952716

>>253952384
Here's my progress for today and last weekend. Happy now? There's a reason why I kept it secret until you started nagging, gamedev is fucking hard, son. We don't want ppl have laughing at us all the time. Now fuck off.

>> No.253952860

>>253952384
can't post images due to some range ip ban but my engine is coming along nicely

>> No.253952916

>>253951938

Buying a synthesizer in this day and age is only an act of excess. Even the most expensive synthesizers cannot stand up to a DAW in functionality, and the sound quality difference is basically non existent.

I have a few synthesizers myself, but don't buy the bullshit. They're a ripoff.

>> No.253953028

Anyone know a good way to implement flat cartoon eyes on characters in unity? Specifically I want to texture them on but as a seperate texture that's just the white of the eyes and pupils and have the face texture somehow mask that. This way I can move eyes around / change color / etc. without having to make a billion face textures. I got this working I blender but can't figure out where to even start in replicating this in unity.

>> No.253953031

>>253952384
I made some progress yesterday and today, but I don't post here because is not that interesting to look at.

>> No.253953181
Quoted By: >>253953345

You guys shit on the discord but there's more progress there than here by far.

>> No.253953205

>>253953028
Not exactly what you're looking for but maybe:
http://www.benjones.us/twilight-princess-eyes-breakdown/

>> No.253953229

>>253952605
From this video i found from googling for about 10 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPgBHwWffE
seems to be what i was thinking of thanks. I'll have to try and implement this.

>> No.253953235
Quoted By: >>253953486

>Try to code a feature using functions I've never used before, relying entirely on documentation
>Get it right first time
Well shit, I set like two hours aside for this and it took me less than fifteen minutes. I haven't planned out what I was supposed to do next.

>> No.253953309

>>253953028
Sounds like you want active gameobjects, if you want to move and change those eyes dynamically. Got a short clip of what you're doing in Blender and want to move to your Unity project?

>> No.253953345

>>253953181
There's a discord?

>> No.253953450
Quoted By: >>253953630

Daily reminder do keep a code journal so you don't have to remember every bit of code you do.

>> No.253953480
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>>253952916
i have almost every single vst (even some unreleased rare ones made by me) and i still buy synths

>> No.253953486
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253953486

>>253953235
>I haven't planned out what I was supposed to do next.

>> No.253953612
Quoted By: >>253954405

>>253953480
it's not a bad hobby if you like them. but it doesn't give you any real edge in producing music

>> No.253953630
Quoted By: >>253954190

>>253953450
Ok. But... what if I'd rather forget about all bits of code I ever wrote because I feel embarrassed by my stupidity? Can you help there?

>> No.253953840
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253953840
Quoted By: >>253954981

Lava game over screen, I don't want to make something to complicate or useless..

>> No.253953942
Quoted By: >>253954272

>UI only looks good if all the elements align
>have to make up extra bullshit that's not even relevant to the game just to make it work

>> No.253954190

>>253953630
you must not. the shame makes you a better coder

>> No.253954272
Quoted By: >>253954404

>>253953942
What are you talking about? All decent engines support an orthographic GUI layer which can render pixel perfect sprites while the game in the background looks like shit.

>> No.253954342

Has anyone tried using Daz 3D models in game? I thought about downloading the software and combining it with Mixamo so I can have nicer looking placeholders than the models Mixamo provides.

>> No.253954404
Quoted By: >>253954639

>>253954272
he means from a graphic design point of view, it looks like shit if there are holes or stuff doesn't line up nicely

>> No.253954405

>>253953612
are you sure?
i start talking about dB with normies and i watch their heads spin
i do the same with talking about F stops and aperture with people who take photos (exclusive phone camera plebs) and their brain also implodes

>> No.253954560
Quoted By: >>253955557

>>253916870
I like this a lot. Do you know any people who are using your engine already?

>> No.253954639

>>253954404
If that's the only thing he has to worry about, can the universe please swap our existences?

>> No.253954651

>>253953480

>I have almost every single vst

fucking disgusting

>> No.253954791

>>253950915
The devs look exactly the way I imagined them to look

>> No.253954981
Quoted By: >>253955159

>>253953840
Make him fry on the surface like a fried sunny side up egg.

>> No.253955159
Quoted By: >>253955248

>>253954981
I can't make it too gorry

>> No.253955248

>>253955159
The smily face is obviously on the sunny side up side. And then a little semi transparent soul ball flies up.

sorry for adding scope

>> No.253955557

>>253954560
No, I don't think it's usable yet. Things like saving and loading states are missing. It's got pretty good texture memory management through the use of SVT which is visible in the other webm in this thread, but it's still missing mesh memory management. After those two things, it's going to be usable, but it's still got a lot to optimize.

>> No.253955563
Quoted By: >>253956243

>>253954342
I tried, daz models are too high poly it caused some lag for me but maybe thats because I dev on a toaster, I think you need some $300 daz add on that makes them game ready and I didn't see a torrent last time I checked, but if you find it please post a low poly daz model for every one to use.

>> No.253955713
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253955713

>just make cute indie shit bro

>> No.253955867

>>253954342
I use Daz for my porn game. It's expensive, especially if you're transferring models to a game engine. Then you need an interactive licence for every single asset you use (figure, hair, clothes etc)

>> No.253955970

>>253955867
is it easy to make something like a cartoon in it?

>> No.253956148

>>253955867
what game, and do you have the add on to make them game ready, or do you just make renders like most porn devs?

>> No.253956187

>>253952123
>In games with branching paths replaying is discourged since you won't see all the content if you do the same thing each playthrough
The whole point of replaying branching path games is to make different decisions each time so that you do see all the content. No one is going to replay a game and make the same exact decisions each time when they are specifically replaying to see other paths. But the replay value is completely destroyed when the branching paths always circle back into a single main branch like with Telltale games. Your choices barely made any significant changes to the story, even when it seemed like the decision did cause a big difference if you go back and play again the other choices ended up leading to the same ending anyways.
I've said it before, I think the best way to do multiple paths as an indie dev is to just have two endings, a hard to achieve "good" ending, and an easy to achieve "bad" ending. Making two endings is much easier than making a complex branching narrative, this means you can focus on truly making each ending significant and unique. It also means the players will almost always get the bad ending on their first play through unless they look at a walk through. You should always give some indication that they got the bad ending so that they know they can go back and play again for the good ending.

>In procgen game it's impossible to replay it unless you can manually set the random seed.
The whole point of replaying procgen games is that you're learning how the game works with each run, you're not meant to memorize the map, you're meant to memorize the pattern of how a level is structured. You know there will always be two chests with items, or a boss, or a shop, or whatever else. The fun of a procgen game is creating a flowchart for the game so that you can maximize every run you have.

>> No.253956243
Quoted By: >>253956540

>>253955563
Just import them to blender and decimate them with "un subdivide" on.

>> No.253956348
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253956348

Finally got some basic structure to my potion shop. Filling it with potions and stuff is going to be hell, though.
I spend so much time looking for assets that'd fit the rest of the art, that I feel like I'd be better off spending the time making the assets. They're not complex anyway.

>> No.253956540

>>253956243
I tried that, but it leaves mistakes.

>> No.253956608

Should you be able to change the direction of your jump midair? Logic says no but a ton of people do it.

>> No.253956704
Quoted By: >>253956813

/agdg/ has been really slow today and yesterday.
I prefer it that way but why is it so, what happened?

>> No.253956705
Quoted By: >>253956993

>>253952916
>Buying a DIGITAL synthesizer in this day and age is only an act of excess
don't be a brainlet ok

>> No.253956774
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253956774

>>253910102
I was only trying to make a simple match 3 puzzler but the scopes slowly building up, im sweating bois, im not sure im gona make it.

>> No.253956813
Quoted By: >>253956921

>>253956704
cris got a job so there is less shitposting

>> No.253956921

>>253956813
big if true

>> No.253956993
Quoted By: >>253957247

>>253956705

You're the brainlet. Analog synthesizers are a total ripoff and the sound quality difference is fucking neglible. Enjoy your buying things hobby. I'll be over here making music.

>> No.253957031

>>253956774
make the green one fuck the pink one

>> No.253957126

>>253956774

joferscope strikes again

>> No.253957151

>>253956608
Air strafe just feels good to play. Same way allowing characters to turn on a dime feels good. Did you ever play the original Red Dead Redemption? Turning was a clunky mess. More than once, when I wanted to stand behind a box, my character would just run circles around it.

That said, I can think of a few games that don't allow air strate.

>> No.253957187

>>253956774
>Press F
wow didn't know this meme was still going on

>> No.253957247
Quoted By: >>253957394

>>253956993
they're 100% not, and I'm sorry for whatever kind of music you make if you can't tell a significant difference

>> No.253957394

>>253957247

It's not whether I can tell a difference, it's whether the people who hear your music can tell the difference(hint: they fucking can't). You're spending thousands of dollars on something and pretending it's a "tool" but in reality you are just addicted to buying things because it makes you feel better about the fact you aren't making anything. Enjoy yourself.

>> No.253957493

I've been watching a shit ton of game dev analysis videos on youtube lately. They're super fun to watch for some reason, normally I don't like analysis and theory stuff like that. Does anybody here have any good recommendations for channels?

>> No.253957519

>>253910102
I have my build coming!

>> No.253957543 [DELETED]

>>253957394
FUCK OFF, RICK JAMES

>> No.253957708

Artfag here. Need some experience with working for others. Check my work. You can contact me via my e-mail thats in artstation/IG header.
https://www.instagram.com/ak__art_/
https://www.artstation.com/ak-art

>> No.253957862
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253957862

>>253957394
> you are just addicted to buying things because it makes you feel better about the fact you aren't making anything

but im making a song right now

>> No.253957936

This is the build I chose

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNsj6s

UE4 FULL STEAM AHEAD

>> No.253958086
Quoted By: >>253958232

>>253957936
Spend the extra $200 and get a better video card

>> No.253958112

>>253957708
Character design is bland.

>> No.253958126

>>253956608
Logic says a lot of boring shit. Is your game designed with one or the other in mind? Is air maneuverability important? Is the LACK of air maneuverability important? Does the difficulty come from having to steer in mid-air to avoid difficult attacks, or from having to commit once you jump, thus making you a lot more self-conscious about where you're gonna land and how vulnerable it will make you? Think classic Megaman vs classic Castlevania. The former allows you to control a jump to an absolutely retarded degree, and the game is designed with that ability in mind, with spiked ceilings and small openings to pass through. The latter forces you to commit to a very specific jump arc, and the game's lax obstacles become nightmarish due to how clunky the controls are.

>> No.253958146

>>253957394
how salty you gotta be over someone buying nice audio production stuff?

>> No.253958232
Quoted By: >>253958714

>>253958086
I can't. I'm going to upgrade later. I want top-of-the-line CPU

>> No.253958263
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253958263

>>253957936
Nice GPU bottleneck

>> No.253958362

>>253958263
>>253958263
Yes, I know

>> No.253958543
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253958543

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oz7gH8x-ts

how come agdg can't make something as based as this?

>> No.253958574

>>253958263
Who cares? Normies enjoy playing 2d unity games that runs like shit so gpu bottleneck is irrelevant so just get a better pc lmao.cpp

>> No.253958693

>>253958543
notch was from aggy when aggy was just the /v/ thread

>> No.253958714
Quoted By: >>253958874

>>253958232
>putting CPU first
ngmi, sorry

>> No.253958767

>>253958543
pure indie low-effort garbage. I can't wait to post progress on my WW2 squad-based stealth project. It's going to kill

>> No.253958874

>>253958714
CPU first always
I spent $800 on my CPU 8 years ago and it still runs like butter

>> No.253958945
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253958945

Should I avoid making people have to tap multiple buttons at once?
e.g. L1+A, R2+Y, A+B, X+Y

>> No.253959226

>>253958874
This guy gets it. We're surrounded by morons. kek

>> No.253959368

>>253958945
Simultaneous taps, yes. Hold+press is okay though

>> No.253959485

>>253956774
can you get the character a pair of glasses? can't see shit

>> No.253959724
Quoted By: >>253959773

>>253958874
your cpu now is worth like 35$ lol

>> No.253959773

>>253959724
>tfw my 1070 is worth more now than when I bought it

>> No.253959983

MY FUCKING BUILD IS COMING FUGGGGGGGGG

First step: download Ableton to make good tracks in the game's style. Later I will use live orchestral and swing samples. i need to write a good bluesy 40s track similar to RDR's Far Away or Unshaken. Everything will fall into place. So hype

>> No.253960070

>>253958945
Trying to hit multiple buttons at the same time can be annoying, especially when it's face buttons that require you to press both buttons with one thumb. Sometimes I'll end up doing whatever action is bound to one of those buttons rather than whatever action is bound to the double button press. I'm not sure if having a smaller thumb would be better or worse.
Holding a button and pressing another button is fine though, as long as the buttons being pressed use different fingers.

>> No.253960457

>>253957708
where were you 3 months ago? I ended up paying some Hungarian roastie 2 grand for my concept art, could have been you

>> No.253960662
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253960662

>he thinks indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2019

>> No.253960724

>>253960662
Make porn

>> No.253960780

>>253960662
I'm starting a 3dpd filter list now.

>> No.253961001

>>253960662
If you have a good vision. I would rather do this than work at Taco Bell. HOLY SHIT STEPHEN PADDOCK'S BROTHER WAS ARRESTED FOR CP

>> No.253961131

Would a person wanting to make a rts game that knows nothing about game development or programming be akin to an out of shape obese man trying to climb mount everest?

>> No.253961154

has anyone truly ever quit gamedev, and even stopped thinking about it
i think she wants me back

>> No.253961420
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253961420

>Anon you're almost 25! When are you going to get a job and move out!

>> No.253961626
Quoted By: >>253963938

>>253961154
If you that anon, fuck you, if you got after her, you deserve a shit bastard.
Play some eroge and forget her.

>> No.253961690

>>253961420
>but mom this game is going to be huge! Just give me a little more time!

>> No.253961724
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253961724

I want to make a spooky game but I want high effort gameplay, no walking sims, no collect/unlock grind, no forced puzzles

what are my options?

>> No.253961785
Quoted By: >>253962007

>>253961724
here are your options: start with pong

>> No.253961793
Quoted By: >>253963938

I like how you can tell when the insane shitposter has entered the thread.
>>253960662
>>253961154
>>253961420

>> No.253961864

>>253961724
Parkour

>> No.253961889
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253961889

I don't think this is too fun.
bombs seem too OP.

>> No.253962007

>>253961785
why do you keep bringing up pong? did it take you like a month to get working or some shit? that's a couple of hours of effort for a complete beginner

>> No.253962072
Quoted By: >>253964785

>>253961889
Make bombs rarer, and make bombs give no points. This way bombs are only useful for clearing out a bad board in hopes of better tiles.

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253962126
Quoted By: >>253962438

>>253961420
>Anon you're almost 25! When are you going to get a job and move out!
>almost 25
>tfw that was almost 5 years ago and I still haven't made a game
at least I have you guys and frogposting

>> No.253962197
Quoted By: >>253964785

>>253961889
Sound and graphical effects are the most "rewarding" aspect of a match3 game.

>> No.253962438
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253962438

>>253962126

>> No.253962682

>>253957394
make money

>> No.253962734

>>253956608
Jumping really high isn't realistic in the first place, if it was then it'd be dangerous in reality unless humans evolved a 6th sense where we could instantly predict and visualize where we'd land. There'd be no need to course re-correct within mid-air because we would always go exactly where we want to, every jump would simply be perfect.

Mid-air movement would compensate for this lack of evolutionary trait. But more importantly it makes the controls more precise, as making such a finely tuned initial jump input is extremely difficult with a controller/keyboard.

>> No.253963063
Quoted By: >>253964785

>>253961889
make the playfield larger

>> No.253963232

>>253960662
neetbux, i dev for FUN

>> No.253963829
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253963829

I'm having trouble conveying the fact that my player character fights with salt. I already have the gameplay sorted out. It's just melee with a long weapon. The salt thing is important for the story(something to do with exorcism), so I want to figure out how to apply it to the visuals. I'm thinking that a bunch of white particle effects on impact is too generic.

>> No.253963938

>>253961626
>>253961793
by "her" i mean gamedev you ESL ass bitches

>> No.253964064

>>253961724
Know what you want to achieve and don't stop

>> No.253964704
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253964704

>>253963829
Why doesn't he just throw salt?
Sword made out of salt?
Salt arrowheads?
Saline syringes?
Salt magic?
Salt bombs?
Threatening people with the word salt?
Being named Salt?
Washing his clothes in salt water?
Soaking his clothes in salt water?
Salt desert?
Desert saltstorms?
Wears goggles and a face mask to avoid breathing it and getting salt in his eyes?
Fountains that pour salt water from their eyes?
Salt Pyramids?
Salt tombs with salt traps?

>> No.253964731

>>253961724
Look at Darkwood. It's almost completely mechanics driven and manages to stay spooky.

>> No.253964785
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253964785

>>253963063
UI is kinda packed already.
>>253962072
that may work, but I think lowering it to 1 block blast radius will help too.
>>253962197
yeah, it's sorta like a slot machine in that regards, but this will have furry porn instead of coins.

>> No.253964930

>>253963829
inventory item descriptions

>> No.253965304

>>253961724
Depends. First person 3D? Third person 3D? Side view 2D?
First person 3D would be the hardest one to make with high effort gameplay without just turning it into a "spooky" FPS. But third person 3D and 2D would probably do well with high-mobility chasing. You can move really good, the monster can move even gooder, if you get the picture.

>> No.253965347

>>253963829
Is the sword blade made of salt, or is it a metal blade that is rubbed with magic salt or whatever that sticks to it? There's not much you can do to convey it visually, even white particles wont really tell the player that it's salt. You will need to describe it through text so the player knows they're using salt. If the salt is applied to the sword you could maybe make it a gameplay mechanic, as you fight the salt slowly comes off the sword, and eventually you'll need to reapply the salt. Less salt on the blade means you deal less damage, and possibly attacks are deflected by enemies.

>> No.253965562
Quoted By: >>253965716

when i think how good my game could be i can hardly breath

>> No.253965612
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253965612
Quoted By: >>253967386

>>253963829

>> No.253965650

>>253964704
>Sword made out of salt?
How would this work? It would just look like a white weapon. Is that enough? I can stick the other stuff in cutscenes I think. Thanks.
>>253964930
Maybe.
>>253965347
That's a good idea. There is a special attack that you have to recharge, I'll think about how to show it with the UI and effects.

>> No.253965716

>>253965562
Do it. Don't stop. Ask for programming advice

>> No.253965823
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253965823

Hey some nobody stranger here. I have too many ideas and too large a skillset to just do nothing. I do 3D modelling, I do graphic design, illustration, animation, music, blah blah blah. Sick of having nothing to show for it! Where do I actually begin? Do I throw myself at Unity? Do I learn C# or something that Unity uses before Unity? Do I do something that doesn't involve Unity at all?

Smart /agdg/ people please help!

>> No.253965903
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253965903

hey cris, stops frogposting and read this book

>> No.253966114
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253966114

>>253965650
Go look at salt rocks if you want to know, but who cares how it works? It's a sword forged from salt.

>> No.253966327
Quoted By: >>253966601

>>253966114
Don't use my wife to shitpost.

>> No.253966331
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253966331
Quoted By: >>253966673

I'm having a lot of fun creating interactables, maybe this will become a sapce UI sim.

>> No.253966524
Quoted By: >>253966668

>>253965823
Make pong

>> No.253966601
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253966601

>>253966327
Nothing you can do to stop me.

>> No.253966651

>>253963829
>>253965650
what the actual fuck

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253966660
Quoted By: >>253967386

>>253964704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPLsrV7ADkE

>> No.253966668

>>253966524
Okay, how?

>> No.253966673
Quoted By: >>253967223

>>253966331
>tell those jannies...
I thought this was going to be a elaborate shitpost at first.

>> No.253966926
Quoted By: >>253967138

>>253965650
>There is a special attack that you have to recharge, I'll think about how to show it with the UI and effects.
The special attack could take a larger chunk of the salt off the weapon. The UI could just be a meter showing the level of salt, maybe a salt rock next to the meter or something. Depends on what sort of UI you're going for.

>> No.253967138
Quoted By: >>253967386

>>253966114
>>253966926
I see. I have enough to work with now. Thanks Anons.

>> No.253967139
Quoted By: >>253967605

>>253965823
>I do 3D modelling
pick Godot or Unity or Unreal. watch youtube tutorials, it shouldn't be your only learning source but it will expand your basic knowledge quickly and give you the landscape of things.
some people in /agdg/ deride youtube tutorials for some dumb reason.

>> No.253967219
Quoted By: >>253970152

>>253952513
Anyone? I really found those comments/descriptions useful. Like for example transform.position would have the description "The transform's current position in world space" or something along those lines.

>> No.253967223

>>253966673
The future isn't much different from the present, they even do it for free here as well.

>> No.253967386
Quoted By: >>253968223

>>253964704
>>253964930
>>253966114
>>253966660
SALT
>>253963829
>>253965347
>>253965612
>>253965650
>>253967138
SALTLESS

>> No.253967605

>>253967139
Do you recommend I follow an entire project tutorial or just follow smaller tutorials on tidbits of info?

>> No.253967752
Quoted By: >>253967920

your game has lore........ right?

>> No.253967791
Quoted By: >>253968065

I wish we had demo day more often, this general is pretty dead without it.

>> No.253967920

>>253967752
Yeah, my game makes you think that you're the hero but you're actually the bad guy.

>> No.253968065

>>253967791
All the meaningful demo day interactions don’t even take place in the thread though.

>> No.253968223

>>253967386
What

>> No.253968330
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253968330
Quoted By: >>253968862

>>253965823
You can learn C# with Unity. For games, I mean. Making programs or other code with C# is a bit different than making a game with it. I have no knowledge with coding outside of gamedev so i'm not so sure how the concepts translate over to 'real' programming, but if you only want to make a game then don't worry.

A basic summary of what i've found effective (for me at least) is to read through the basic and intermediate tutorials for coding on the Unity website. Watch a lesson, then copy the code down. Once you have everything copied down, read through each function and line and try to understand how and why it works, and study it. Then try to replicate it from memory to make sure you've memorized it. The final 'test' is to apply this new knowledge you've learned in a new or inventive way. Try and add your own alterations to what you've learned, or implement it in a new manner that helps further your knowledge and understand how this code can be applied in many situations. Then move on to the next lesson.

Once you've done the beginner and intermediate lessons you should have an okay-ish grasp on basic coding with unity, then it's your choice where you want to go next. Personally I spent a while learning the basics of almost everything within the average game, from inventory, player control, interaction with objects and raycasts, etc etc. But ultimately it's up to you to decide what to do next. Make some small practice games for a while, and try with every project to make yourself learn something new and important.

>> No.253968717
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253968717
Quoted By: >>253970617

>>253965823
Why are you even in the gamedev thread? What do you want to make?
I can tell you what someone who wants to make video games should do, but you don't seem to be that someone.

>> No.253968802

How do you make fights that you have to lose (for story reasons) good without it just being "you have to win but then you lose in the cutscene afterwards"

>> No.253968862

>>253968330
Good thinking! I don't learn very well from just having people show me or tell me what to do, almost everything else I'm good at I just screw around until I figure it out. You can't really just mash buttons in code and expect it to eventually work, so dissecting code that already exists is probably the best way to go.

>> No.253969023

>>253968802
>How do you make X
Soul.
Do you need me to lend you some?

>> No.253969130
Quoted By: >>253969332

>>253968802
Make it hopeless. If it's turn-based, make it numerically impossible to win. If it's not, make the attacks undefendable. A projectile too big to avoid, a screen-wide nuke attack, extreme projectile clutter, etc. The enemy can either look invincible or like it takes damage, but never give it a health bar or any indication that the player is making progress, because there is none.

>> No.253969183
Quoted By: >>253969332

>>253968802
Make them impossible. Don't give the player any false hope of winning. It shouldn't be a normal fight, it should end pretty quickly.

>> No.253969270
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253969270

I want to write my own horror universe but what format do I do this in?

how the fuck do you even write lore, just write a private book?

>> No.253969321

>>253968802
Just make the fight impossible to win, winning and then losing in a cutscene is bad because you're fucking with the players expectations. The best thing would be an undodgeable attack halfway trough the battle that makes the player lose.

>> No.253969332
Quoted By: >>253969646

>>253969130
>>253969183
>hopeless
There's absolutely nothing worse than having to slog through a fight you know you can't win.

>> No.253969370

>>253968802
You could do something like the end of LISA, where you winning is a bad thing, and people are trying to stop you because you've become a monster or killing machine, and winning is a 'game over' in the sense that the people in the right lost to you, and there's nothing left now. Granted, in LISA you were supposed to win but it was a sort of tragic victory in a sense and that fight is the finale fight, so...

>> No.253969387

>>253969270
Make some rules. Redefine things with those rules. So take from something obscure and public domain (look up old ass books on the internet archive.) Now branch off from those things.

>>